Are You Angry With God’s Alleged Genocide?

Often non-believers in an attempt to rationalize their disbelief in God point to God’s alleged genocidalsculpture-616821_640 commands in the Bible.  “Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.”

I once wondered about these passages and struggled to reconcile them with the loving God more often marketed by TV pastors and the like.  Once you delve into the history of the Amalekites and other people like the Canaanites for whom God also commanded destruction and compare them with the similar modern atrocities occurring around the world I question not why God gave this command but why he did not do it sooner.

I read recently an article about a Yazidi woman who was kidnapped by ISIS, separated from her children and then starved for two days.  The fighters eventually gave her food and as she ate the meat, most likely with the gusto of a human starved of sustenance, her captors told her that she was eating her three year old son from whom days earlier she had been separated.  In another account ISIS forced a mother to watch men rape her nine year old daughter to death.  Take a moment and soak in the true horror of these crimes.  Children raped to death! Children butchered for food!

The Shire folk see the world as a very, merry place but the men of Gondor, on the brink of Mordor, see the world differently.

No life is without challenges but the majority of us have not yet been exposed to the true, cold evils of our world.  Yes, we have lost loved ones to cancer or to car accidents or to drugs.  But what nightmares have we faced?  Right now somewhere in this world men are selling women to rapists!  Men are decapitating other men, burning prisoners alive and stealing children for their armies.  At this moment a child is wondering how killing another child would feel.

If we promote Justice through our courts and prison system how then can we judge God for executing justice on the Amalekites or Canaanites who for generations indulged in rape, incest, bestiality and child sacrifice?  To each generation the sins of their forefathers and even their god was promoted and in turn repeated. No light, no good could be found. The poison had permeated every man, woman and child and when their sin was at full measure as it had become in Sodom and Gomorrah, God eradicated the people from this earth rather than permitting their corruption to spread.

Was God’s judgment morally wrong? Before you answer first imagine this.  Your child is kidnapped by a serial killer who for years rapes and abuses your child.  Once your child obtains their own power they will most likely commit suicide or will in turn inflict what they learn on younger generations.  If for years you could witness every vile act of degradation committed against your baby as God is able then quite acceptably you would want the serial killer punished even, at the height of your wrath, with death.  You would not want your child to suffer as much for the crimes they committed but how then is that fair to his/her victims who crave the same justice as you?  You cannot want your son’s molester punished and yet cry “mercy” for your child.  After all even though your son learned his behavior from his captor, a prior generation might too have pounded the depravity into them.  With a raised fist you then question why God would allow such evil but don’t think on how he should prevent it or that you are asking God to take an action you previously denounced.

Remember, God is a parent too and unlike us he witnesses and feels evil committed against the children he loves on a second by second basis.  Are we permitted to condemn God for his mercy when we demand justice but condemn Him for his justice when we plead for mercy?

Don’t let God’s justice dissuade you from your belief in him!

To better understand the full extent of Canaanite sin and God’s command, watch the Youtube video below.

The History of Human Sin – Clay Jones:  

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11 thoughts on “Are You Angry With God’s Alleged Genocide?

  1. siriusbizinus

    A point to consider is that rejection of genocidal commands is a rejection of the idea that the Christian deity is a benevolent being. If we applied your reasoning fully to your analogy, it would also mean that it’s okay to kill young infant children born in ISIS controlled lands. Is that really justice?

    Another problem you’re running into is that you can’t fully fault ISIS for killing children. Remember, you’re justifying that it’s okay for that to happen if a deity commands it. These people think they’re the army of their deity. If they have the right belief, then what they’re doing is not wrong at all.

    Rather, it’s simply the justice of a deity whose ways are mysterious to mortals.

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  2. The Isaiah 53:5 Project

    Where in this post did the author say killing was justified bacause God commands it?

    While the God of Christianity did kill, His actions were justified because He is perfect and can do no wrong.

    To say that God gives any believers authority to kill in His name is unbiblical. I think you are aluding to Divine Command Theory here which many Christians don’t believe in. In other words, you are setting up an obvious straw man.

    This was a good post that makes a good point, you’ve done nothing to counter it.

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    1. siriusbizinus

      (1)”Where in this post did the author say killing was justified [because] God commands it?”

      Here’s the quote from the above post:

      “Once you delve into the history of the Amalekites and other people like the Canaanites for whom God also commanded destruction and compare them with the similar modern atrocities occurring around the world I question not why God gave this command but why he did not do it sooner.”

      Unless the English language has changed, that’s a strong implication that the Amalekites at least deserved their punishment. Even you seem to agree with this notion in saying, “While the God of Christianity did kill, His actions were justified because He is perfect and can do no wrong.” I find it interesting, though, that you used the term “God of Christianity.” Are you suggesting that there are two different deities at work in the Bible?

      (2)”To say that God gives any believers authority to kill in His name is unbiblical.”

      Consider Exodus 17: 8-16 (an account of where Israelites killed Amalekites); 1 Samuel 15: 1-11 (a command by God for Saul to wipe out the Amalekites, and the distress of God when Saul didn’t fully carry it out); Deuteronomy 25: 17-19 (reminding the Israelites that they must blot out the Amalekites); and Deuteronomy 20: 16-18 (God’s command to the Israelites to kill everything in the Promised Land, including the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites).

      Go ahead and look these verses up. They’re fairly standard from version to version.

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  3. Ryder Post author

    I appreciate your points!
    “If they have the right belief, then what they’re doing is not wrong at all.”
    I guess the key point here is who has the “right belief”?
    I suppose the issue comes down to whose side you agree with the most and well, who is actually real.

    Killing a child to save it from being horrifically burned in a child sacrifice or sexually abused throughout its life or to prevent it from harming future children differs from killing a child through rape or torture for personal pleasure and using their death as an instrument to torment others. In any case I believe, and you are free to fault me for this, that babies go to heaven.

    Again I understand the issue is a matter of perspective. Many people have been “ethnically cleansed” by dictators who believed from their point of view that they were doing the world a favor and those who agreed or disagreed were free to take sides.

    I suppose for me, killing the corrupt to stop the spread of corruption is more justified than killing the un-corrupt to spread corruption. Sometimes who is right and who is wrong is blurred and sometimes whose side we should be on is very clear.

    Again, thanks for reading! My best to you.

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    1. siriusbizinus

      Thank you for your response!

      And I get where you’re coming from. My questions aren’t really aimed at nitpicking your overall position, but I do wish to cover the bases for where you’d get the most contention from non-believers like me. Really, what I was mainly trying to point out is that getting into the genocides of the Old Testament really isn’t a productive discussion.

      Most of it is because of what you pointed out in your comment. You’re not going to find any atheist or agnostic who is a fan of ISIS, and many atheists (including myself) feel that military action is justified to stop ISIS. So in many ways there’s not a big disagreement there. The disagreement only comes in when people discuss the many different ways to arrive at the conclusion.

      At any rate, I apologize for the long comments. I did enjoy reading this post!

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  4. Wally Fry

    This was really, really good. Tough subject and really one most of us would like to avoid. Do you mind if I share it? You will get hammered with comments if I do probably.

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  6. KIA

    james said
    “While the God of Christianity did kill, His actions were justified because He is perfect and can do no wrong.”

    LOL.I almost did a spit take. this is the very definition of Divine Command Theory.
    “Whatever the president does is by definition Legal” -Richard Nixon during the WG Scandal
    Might makes Right… held by ever tyrant. ex. Hitler, Stalin and Mao
    “He is perfect and can do no wrong” so when god commands killing (and he does in the OT) he’s fully justified because he says so.
    at least moses and the children of Israel only went round in circles for 40yrs. Christianity has been arguing in circles for 2000yrs with no end in sight.
    -KIA

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